Writing these reports is somewhat difficult when there hasn't been a meeting and we're in a crunch time in the release cycle. The things that have happened that are related to TC activity are disjointed, a bit hard to track, and hard to summarize. There have, however, been a few blips in IRC traffic in #openstack-tc and in the governance repo, so I'll attempt to apply my entirely subjective eye to those things.

Tags, Projects, Deliverables, Oh My

The review to add the api interop assert tag to ironic and nova has foundered a bit on the diversity of opinions on not just what that specific tag means, but what tags in general mean, and who uses them. There's plenty of conversation on that review, as well as most recently some chatter in this morning's office hour.

One outcome of the discussion (in its many places) is that the primary use of the tags is to engineer a technical solution to a marketing problem, in the form of the Project Navigator. As such it tends to get messy at the interface and difference between the boundaries and identifiers that matter to the people developing the projects and the boundaries and identifiers that matter to the people promoting or using the project navigator. It can also mean that anyone who is aware of the marketing value of the tags may experince conflicts when considering any of the tags which may be voluntarily asserted.

The current case in point is that if asserting the api interoperability tag is presented as a sign of maturity in the navigator, any project that considers itself mature would like to not be penalized in the event that they are mature in a way that is not in alignment with the tag.

The Top 5 List, Barbican, Designate, Castellan

Another topic from this morning's office hour was discussing whether it might make sense to put contribution to the barbican and designate projects on the Top 5 List and/or make them base services (there's something of a chicken and egg problem there).

Later in the day the topic was picked back up, with dims suggesting that castellan should be the base requirement, not barbican. Castellan, however, does not yet satisfy all the needs designate would have, if doing DNSSEC.

Further discussion required, as far as I could tell.

Increasing Engagement From And With People In China

Last Thursday's office hour started with a brief report about China where ttx and many others had been at OpenStack Days China. This led to a discussion about the many difficulties present in synchronous communication technologies including all forms of chat, audio and video. Each presents difficulties either in terms of comprehension, limited access, or issues with latency.

yeh, we need to get people less al[l]ergic to doing real conversations in email :) sdague

(Words to live by.)